Brian
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Post by Brian on Jan 15, 2013 13:46:25 GMT -5
So I have been considering replacing the seats in the TJ. The front seats are in good shape, but as I get more aggressive with the build and the trails I do, I am looking at more protection by adding a Rock Hard cross bars to the back of the factory roll cage and seats that will accept a harness. The front part I got, just need to decide on the seats and how much I want to spend...the rear is the issue. Looking at the idea of pulling the rear bench and putting in the Tuffy Full Length Underseat Drawer www.tuffyproducts.com/p-181-full-length-underseat-drawer.aspx and bolting a third single seat on top of it and then a dog bed on the other side along with an offroad dog harness www.buckleuppup.com/products.htmlThe Tuffy Draw comes with an anchor point for the seatbelts if you use the factory bench seat...would it be strong enough to support the whole seat? Emailed Tuffy, but I haven't gotten a response yet.
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Post by Halo Performance on Jan 15, 2013 14:20:56 GMT -5
Do you lean out the door to look often? A harness may hinder the way you drive offroad. I've got a seat and 5pt harness In my basement that i never installed for this reason. Thinking of putting it in the passenger seat for Erica more than myself.
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Post by wonk on Jan 15, 2013 19:13:50 GMT -5
Supporting the seat on the sheet metal "case" of the drawer may have a tendency to overload the box to the point of interfering with the drawer. Some simple fabbing of a support attached to the box should work better. I would think a 3/4"- 1" square tubing frame would suffice.
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Post by neil on Jan 16, 2013 5:55:12 GMT -5
I agree with wonk, that if it is as simple as a sheetmetal box, it is going to need to be strengthened to support the seat. Commenting on the front harnesses,remember that the shoulder straps should really be mounted no more than 4 " below the shoulder and no higher. That's something I have to adress myself. I really didn't want to place a bar behind the front seat, but I should do something different. The good thing, is wheeling generally is done at slow speeds, so front impacts are not likely to be that hard, where the shoulder straps are trying to crush your back into the seat bottom. Dave, just because you have the belts, doesn't mean their always required, but when they are, at least you have them. I don't like the limited mobility either.........but I still use them when I know I am pushing it. Most roll-overs happen when you least expect it though
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Post by Brian on Jan 17, 2013 1:18:54 GMT -5
Dave, good point...I do run half doors and like to lean out and check wheel placements...my other concern is that sliding in and out of the seats I have sat in is hard...but when wheeling some of the place I do, if I were to roll if will be a multiple roll event and not a simple flop...so what I am really trying to do is keep most of my body parts in the Jeep to make the coroners job a little easier...just kidding...as for the rear seat...I was thinking a frame on top of the box so the top of the box does buckle...I nee to see how the center seat belt latch is bolted to or thru the box. All good points, keep them coming.
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Post by yjsaabman on Jan 19, 2013 8:53:32 GMT -5
I actually bought and piggy-backed a lap belt for an older CJ into my YJ for trail use. It kept me in place without having to battle the retractable shoulder belt when I wanted to lean out, or tightening up, like the retractable belt tended to.
Thinking along those lines, the harness should provide you with that simple lap belt when that's all you want, but having the option of the shoulder harnesses when you really need them.
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Post by Halo Performance on Jan 19, 2013 14:52:23 GMT -5
Thats a good point, too. You dont have to have all belts on.
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